In one “good”* paragraph explain what is your reaction to the immigrant experience portrayed in The Jungle? Please cite specific examples from the novel. Could events like those portrayed in The Jungle happen today?
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*NOTE - a “good” paragraph is at least five sentences. It contains a topic sentence, at least three supporting details, and a concluding statement.
September 21st, 2006 at 7:24 am
My reaction to the things we read in class is mainly shock. I couldn’t believe that people would have such horrible jobs and especially people that hasve immigrated. I mean I know that just because they werent educated they would not get a good job like a regular citizen but I did not imagine anything as horrible as that.
I think that if i were to ever work in a slaughter house that I would have the toughest time…. and if I would ever be stressed out from something it would be going to work.
I was shocked from the ways we read of how they killed the animals… I know i would hate to be hit with a sledge hammer like the cow, or be in the wheel like the pig.
September 21st, 2006 at 7:32 am
I felt disturbed by most of the things we read int eh book. When we read aobut the pigs getting tied to the wheel and then slaughtered, at first I was just sickened. However later on when we read about the “reusing” of the waste, such as adding nails and sludge to the hops, and using chemicals to hide the smell or taste, I was very disturbed, almost nauseated (if I was hungry before that it didnt last long.) Then when we read about the working conditions at the fertilizer plant, I kept wondering how people could let things like this happen, and why action wasnt taken sooner. Overall i found the things we read to be fascinationg, but grusome and sickening at the same time.
~Sean
September 21st, 2006 at 7:52 am
When Mr. Coyle read the first part of the story I was appalled at the working conditions that these people went through. I kept on thinking, “Why would anyone do some thing like this?!” As Mr. Coyle continued reading I thought that it would get better but it didn’t. I don’t think that anything like this could ever really happen today. People would refuse to buy anything made by them if they knew that this happened. I really feel sorry for the people that had to go through this.
September 21st, 2006 at 8:00 am
I think that the immigrants are being treated just like the animals: the only difference is that the immigrants don’t get stuck by knives or getting all their hair shaved off. I would not have ever done this in my entire life, but these people had no other choice. They thought they were going to the promised land, America, but they actually were taking a one way ticket to hell. Basically everything was bad there, the smell, touch, feel, taste, everything. But these immigrants had no choice of working anywhere else because there was no anywhere else.
Events like this would probably not happen today because of a few reasons. One of them is the reason that people do not like to work in conditions like these, and people will just go and find other jobs. It is as easy as that nowadays. Another reason is that the consumer would also not buy products when rats and such are in it. Also, nowadays many people check the quality of the food and of the factories, so it is very unlikely that things like these happen, except in places like India or various countries in Africa, where labor is cheap and the quality doesn’t matter.
September 21st, 2006 at 8:08 am
I thought that the jumgle had some good ideas stating what it was like for imagrants in America. my thought for the book was omg what do these Americans think of these pepole they treat them as bad as they do to the pigs and cows. another thing i thought about was the firtelizers i thought if now adays pepole still do these jobs the working conditions would not be as bad.
September 21st, 2006 at 8:18 am
I think that the working conditions were very unique. When I heard that the pigs were gone up a ramp and tied on the wheel to kill them, I was surprised that the people found a way to kill the pig, and I thought that it was intelligent. I guess that other kids would think that as being very nasty, but as I said I think it was a good idea using machines to kill the pig. However, when it came to the part about making sausages I was very sick; I thought how did I eat all of this very happily? I hope this isn’t happening today in the slaughter houses. Overall, I think this is a cruel thing to do, but I also think the machines they made were fantastic.
September 21st, 2006 at 8:29 am
In one “good”* paragraph explain what is your reaction to the immigrant experience portrayed in The Jungle? Please cite specific examples from the novel. Could events like those portrayed in The Jungle happen today?
I think that those living conditions were really poor and that the amerikans made the imigrants do the dangerous and the sick work like fertilizeing. I think that those trhings shouldn’t ever have been like that. Today the animals get raised on a farm and when they are good enough they are sloughtering the with machines I guess.
September 21st, 2006 at 8:29 am
I thought they were treated worse then the animals that were being slaughtered. It was disgusting. The way the guide had used the saying “They use everything about the hog except the squeal,” is frightening because it’s true. They do use everything, all the rest of the body that can’t be eaten is sent of to the fertilizing factory. Also, how they killed the hogs, and what they did of the bodies after makes you wonder, how did people not become sick? These events could and could not happen today. I think it really changes on which country you are in and what the government is like. If the government is corrupted, they won’t care about how the people’s food is like because they will have high quality food. But if it isn’t they will take special care in seeing how the food industry is being handled, if there are no pesticides in the food. If the meat is spoiled it is disposed in a safe way in which no one will eat it. The country also takes a major role in the food industry. If the country is mostly made of Muslims the way pork is handled is going to be different if it is in a country where there are mostly Catholics. It really depends on those two factors.
September 21st, 2006 at 8:44 am
The reaction to the book ‘The Jungle’ is that it was very disgusting, and I almost vomited. I wasn’t hungry anymore and began to hate sausages, and hams from the very moment where I read the part about the pigs getting slaughtered by the wheel. I got sick when I heard that people killed cows by hitting their heads with sledge hammer. Also, I saw people working and living in a bad condition. Not only that, but Americans forced the immigrants to be American, just as when Japan invaded Korea for a while. Immigrants had to learn English, eat like Americans, and dress like Americans. They got non-skilled jobs. I was very depressed that nobody at that time tried to stop this horrible thing. I wanted to ask the Americans, how they would feel if they were immigrants, who came to America. They have nothing, they get un-skilled jobs, and they are forced to be Americans forever. How would they feel? How they feel is the feeling of the immigrants. I hope this horrible thing never happens again.
September 21st, 2006 at 9:18 am
Disturbing, thats the word for this book Down right disturbing. When we started reading the book today, I resisted throwing up. It was sick. The ways the animals were treated and slaughtered was just mean. Yes mean, disgusting and dumb. When I say dumb I mean to ask isnt their a smarter/ less painfull way?
Now lets take a look at the more disturbing part. When we read about how the chracter in the book had to work in the fertilization sector, i felt miles beyond sad. I could see the immigrant staggering for breath when he left for home, i saw him but i could not help him. The immigrants are being treated like animals, they go to America feeling confident and good just as the pig go up the ramp feeling happy. But then the immigrants fall i a pot of hot boiling water just like the animals.
Yes it is possible for people to work under these conditions today. I have watched videos on PITA and i saw workers smashing chickens aginst the wall etc… But i know it is still possible to outgrow these conditions
-RAGHAV
September 21st, 2006 at 9:21 am
In the 1800 hundreds, immigrants were treated like animals, profit first safety second, with no morals and laws to hold them back; bosses would mistreat their workers to amazing extremes. One of the things that struck me most was the will power of these immigrants, even if they were working in terrible conditions, they would still keep on working to support there families, another thing that shocked me was the bosses view that making money was more important than the lives of workers. On that same note, it surprised me that even though the bosses cared so much about money, they still made risks like putting all that junk into the sausages. If anyone found out about that, the company’s profits would probably drop like a bomb. What still has me scared is the notion that while sausages like that are probably not being like that anymore in America, working conditions and health standards might not have changed a lot here in India.
September 21st, 2006 at 9:42 am
I was quite shocked at the terrible things the animals and meat go through in the packing industry of the 1800s. I couldn’t believe the things the guy in the book went through in the fertilizer factory. He almost died in that place it was horrible. I couldn’t believe had badly treated the immigrants to America were, no one gave them respect or cared if they were smart or not, they just put them in the worst jobs possible, like the slaughter house and fertilizer factories. The meat was treated badly back then and now it is quite similar, but I don’t really care how it’s made, I care how it tastes.
September 21st, 2006 at 10:03 am
My reaction to the book was that i found it quite disgusting how both humans and animals were being treated horribly. From what we read i think the animals suffered a terrible yet quite sudden death, unlike the humans who worked with fertilizer, who probably suffered a slow, and painfu death as they inhaled all that poison. Another thing that really digusted me was how they reused everything, adding a few things like rats, and sold them for a higher price. I think that they were quite mean to the immigrants in the way that they had to do all the the hard labor, as the job with the fertilizer that most likely will cause them an early death, and serious damage to their body. I think that things like this still happen in the world, as I know that in Denmark, all the Polish immigrants become laborors. This is however not quite as extreme as it was then, as it is not dangerous to their health in any way.
September 21st, 2006 at 10:04 am
I definitely was shocked with the conditions of the factories immigrants had to work in. Just being in the same room as the pigs being tied to the wheel sounds down right awful. I’m sure there has to be a way of slaughtering animals that’s more pleasant for the animals and the people that work in the factory. I found it hard to believe that the factory workers or health inspectors of the time didn’t find it completely disturbing to put dead rats and other waste in with the meat that people were expected to EAT. Plus, waste bins should not be cleaned only ONCE a year. The waste can start to create a bad atmosphere and can increase the risk of illness. It was also odd to think that the people in charge of the fertilizer industry found it acceptable that the workers were getting so ill and that certain substances they were exposed to could cause damage to their health. Overall, I was in major shock from this book and can’t believe the conditions were this bad.
September 21st, 2006 at 10:08 am
I was shocked about the works that immigrants were doing, and how people treated them. On page 129, the books tell us about how it was like to work in the fertilizing factory. The immigrants called the factory as hell, because people were dying by working in that factory. Another thing that shocked me was when the meat factory was selling unhealthy meats. The meats were stored in the dark room full of mice. Mouse dung was all over the meat, so the workers would poison the mice. But the poisoned mice were also poisoning the meats that were stored. But, the factory mixed the meats with the good meats and sold them in the higher prizes. It was obvious that other people who were buying the meats would think that meats that were expensive would be better quality. I think that these might be happening these days now, because most people think that products that are higher in prices are even better quality.
September 21st, 2006 at 10:10 am
The book The Jungle surprised me. I knew what a slaughter house was but I wasn’t sure about what exactly went on in there. This was set before when the immigrants were treated badly but the things that went on in there like, they had heaps and heap soft paddock things that an endless amount of cattle were in all heading towards a ramp that killed them. It was disturbing to fins out what the workers had to do and hear when they were working like the cries and screams of the cattle. The most shocking thing was probably the sausages, they contained dead rats, poo, poison, rusty nails ect…. But the worst part of it was that they sold these “special sausages” for extra!. The fertilizer plant was a piece of work, anyone who went in was going to die, he said that he had the fertilizer an inch into his skin and that he couldn’t breathe without his lungs being filled with the stuff. He also said that he stank so much that people got out of his way just to get away from the smell. I think it is possible for this today happen today, to a certain extent because we have health codes and health inspectors to see weather our food is safe or working conditions are safe but in some places it is still just as bad probably like those farms where the are all grown up together in small spaces then absolutely ripped to pieces used all of their body parts sort of like in the book The Jungle where he said they only thing they don’t use of the pig is its squeal.
September 21st, 2006 at 10:12 am
Absolutely diabolical! After reading those specific excerpts from the book, I was completely speechless, and was left with a nauseating feeling in my stomach. The way the author so vividly described the setting, it were as if all the unfortunate animals’ blood were sprayed across every word, the bellows and screeches of bloodied hogs and pigs left to whisper as you turned each page. Especially shocking was the gruesome description of the way sausages were produced. Germs from human spit, and rats and their droppings combined to make the perfect sausage. Delicious right? I don’t think so. Not only that, but working conditions for the immigrant slaughterhouse laborers were deplorable. Many died from ammonia exuding from the fumes of soil fertilizer produced from the waste of animals. Unsanitary doesn’t even skim the surface of their sickening jobs. The pay was horrendous, and the immigrants were taken advantage of by the factory owners, in fact, America for that matter. These events, most certainly happed today. Although, mostly, to that extent, only in third world countries, Almost in the exact same ways. Immigrants are taken advantage of, for they are desperate, so the factory owners can pay them petty salaries. Also, hygiene levels are extremely low, and the quality of the meat is appalling. Safety precautions are not always met, such as wearing protection against deadly fumes such as ammonia. These risky measures often result in deaths of laborers.
September 21st, 2006 at 10:17 am
Today Mr. Coyle introduced us to a book called The Jungle; I could summarize this book in three words, disgusting, disturbing, and nauseating. First he read us about the way the make their sausages, and I was just sickened. First, they used all the new immigrants to work in the slaughterhouses, because they don’t have enough education to work at any better jobs. The book explains how the cows and pigs get tied to a wheel and get slaughtered and boiled. After they are chopped the factory reuses materials such as nails to put in their sausages and hiding it by using chemicals. In another excerpt that he read to us it tells about the working conditions at a fertilizer plant, and how a worker became sick from his job. After he finished I was confused and disgusted about how they could do that to people.
September 21st, 2006 at 10:20 am
I was shocked after reading the book The Jungle, today in Humanities class. I couldn’t believe how the humans and animals were treated in the slaughterhouses, and I was amazed how violently the animals were killed. For example, on pages 38-39 the book describes how the animals were innocently led into the factory, where they were hooked up to cruel machines and then killed. I couldn’t believe that people could actually watch this happen, and that factories like this actually existed!
The other thing I was shocked by were the working conditions the workers had to survive. On pages 130-130 the book describes how “…and in suffocating cellars where the daylight never came you might see men and women and children bending over whirling machines…” In this you can see that the conditions the laborers worked in were inhuman, and would probably cause death eventually because they were just so unnatural to humans.
The last thing I was shocked about was the food process, especially the sausage. The book tells how all the waste water, how random meat, maybe rotten, would all be boiled and turned into sausages. The meat used was probably not safe for humans to eat, yet it was all made to look the same. I was really glad I was a vegetarian when we finished reading about the meat packaging, because the description was so vivid and disgusting!
I actually think that places like this do exist, to an extent, today. Instead of slaughterhouses, they are called factory farms, yet the same methods of horrible treatment to animals happen there. The bad thing is that, like the old slaughterhouses, these factory farms say their food is fresh from a natural farm, when in reality the meat is from sick animals kept all their lives in old factory buildings. The only difference is that the workers in these places aren’t treated so badly.
When I read The Jungle I realized the bad side of the industrial revol
September 21st, 2006 at 10:31 am
The start of the reading wasn’t bad. I felt like I was reading about some normal activities with great imagery and descriptions. The second whole paragraph on page 36 was just that.
But gradually experiencing more parts of the story-line, my feelings moved phases from being sorry to feeling gross. The last paragraph on page 38 leading into the whole next page was absolutely gross! Describing the way the hogs were killed made me feel sorry for them. Later on knowing how the labors chop off their heads, and let the body drop itself into the huge vat of boiling water was just simply disgusting. Thinking of such an activity gives me the goose bumps, and probably I’ll also end up having nightmares.
I also felt disgusted when I read that rats’ dung and the water used for washing the labors’ dirty hands is packed with the meet. It’s packed with the same meet some people ate to survive!
Personally, I think the descriptions written in the book are still present in today’s life. But I think there are very few places where activities like this still happen. But over all in majority, situations must have gone better. Since this book was published, many meet eaters might have switched to being a vegetarian. Therefore the sale of meet wasn’t good and the government had to take some action. And that’s what they did. The government improved the meet making situations so that the population would be comfortable and would start purchasing meet again.
September 21st, 2006 at 12:28 pm
I felt so surprised and shocked at the immigrant experience that was portrayed in the book Jungle. At page 129-132 they were talking about an immigrant working in a fertilizer factory, and I felt it was a very dangerous thing because if children or women get stuck into machines they could have even died. They had a very bad pollution in the factory; they had a steam and a dust coming out of the machine. I guess at that time they were risking their lives for money. Also they didn’t even have a good food to eat for the worker, and for me I wouldn’t even imagine this kind of things because it was just so horrible. How the factory was treating animals were very wrong too. They were killing animals so violently, and the way they were making food was very unsanitary.
I think these events that were portrayed in the book Jungle won’t be happening now because now governments are well organized and have laws for controlling these events. And I won’t appreciate these kinds of events to occur.
September 21st, 2006 at 12:31 pm
My reaction of the book ‘The Jungle’ is that I was impressed how author tried to change America, also the part where the factor kill hogs was disgusting! I felt the spirit of the author; I think he was disgusted too, when he was writing the book. And I strongly felt that they should have changed the immigrants, how they are treated and how they are cheated. When hogs’ heads were chopped, I thought that it was really similar to the immigrants, because Americans forced immigrants to be like Americans, which mean telling immigrants to forget their culture, and their daily life in their country. Forgetting your culture and your daily life is almost same as cutting their head and become food. I really want immigrants to have courage to speak up!
September 21st, 2006 at 12:55 pm
The write has given even the minutest details of the complete procedure of making the processed Ham, Sausages etc. at the food factory. While I was listening to how it was described I felt disgust and a sickening feeling at how all that rotten meat was mixed with good meat and was selling it to the customers with higher price. People will believe that it’s much better meat because it was selling in higher price. In this book, there were a lot of vivid description of the rats infesting the meat, the poisoned bread, rat’s dung and the meat, all going together in to the hopper. That was the main shock for me in this book. I think this whole situation is still going on in the world. Like people who immigrate one country to another doesn’t know what they’re futures will be, like many hogs in the story ‘the jungle’. Hogs didn’t know if they reach the top they’re lives will be end. Also this happens a lot, because in this world, there are still slaves. Slaves can’t do anything and have to work for that person, so we really don’t know what’s happening behind factories competition each other.
September 21st, 2006 at 1:04 pm
My reactions to the story were simply “SHOCKING.” The more and more we went on with reading the story, the more surprised I felt: especially when reading the factory conditions. By reading pages 38 through 39, I couldn’t believe the ways how animals would actually come into the factories not knowing what would happen to them and get their body parts cut out so cruelly—their legs would be cut, tied on a machine, and their body parts would be stripped and cut out into pieces by people!! I mean, how can people actually have jobs to do such things to animals like that, by seeing it?
I was also amazed by reading the story which described the working conditions of the fertilizer factory: A person would come out as a fertilizer from head to toe after a minute- it would make him sick, and have a severe head pain. I can actually imagine how a person who had just gone in and came out of this factory would look like: A dirty person with a grimace that shows disgust on his face, smelling of odor.
Summing up, to come to think of it, I feel sorry for the immigrants who would work in factories like these. They would have no other choice and would actually be forced to work in severe places like these, because they would need money to make a living. To describe the immigrants, they are just like the pigs which come into the factory to be cut down into pieces: they come immigrate into the country thinking about all these good things that would happen to them, a thought far away from the actual real life that is going on.
September 21st, 2006 at 2:24 pm
I had no idea how meats were packed before reading The Jungle. I was taken aback by the fact that how meat packing was like in early 1900’s. The hogs were put into a cart by one gigantic wheel. Then the cart moved forward to the next stage, which was slicing the hog’s head. They were boiled in hot water, and then used a machine to get rid of their hairs. After that, they were hung upside down in a freezer. Since the factory was lightless, rats ran and pooped around everywhere. That poisoned the labors and meats of that factory. If you relate this process with the immigrants, they’re like hogs except they weren’t killed. The immigrants stepped into America not knowing what would happen to them the next. Then, they were put in to this jail-like factory, and worked hard, even though Americans treated them like an animals. I was totally disgusted. My mind was full of sausages, pork, and other meat products I have consumed until now.
I think that still some places do have work conditions like those, but little better. For most of factories around the world, the working condition must have developed, since everyone wants clean products.
September 26th, 2006 at 9:54 am
My thoughts on the conditions for immagrints in the IR that the book” the jungle” portraid are devestating.During the hogs factory i was appauled.i was horrified at the thought of the spinning wheel at the top of the building, the head choppers, the holes for where the intestines went, and all the other bizzar methods of making processed meat. i think there are things like that that happen today, things like meat factories and stuff like that the smae deal really. i also think that someone should take action against these factories.
September 26th, 2006 at 2:28 pm
I think that there ARE still factories in today’s life, for immigrant workers. But I am guessing and hoping that they might be having better working conditions for workers now, because life sure has developed since the time the book was written.
September 28th, 2006 at 9:19 pm
First, my reaction after reading few paragraphs in The Jungle was a big, big shock. What I read was just sick. And because Ayla drew a grate visualization after Mr. Coyle read a paragraph describing a slaughterhouse, our class pretty much have a basic idea about a slaughterhouse. When I read that they make a sausage with rat dung, I decided to never eat a sausage again. I’m sure that those events in The Jungle can happen today because the machines might have changed in the slaughterhouse but I don’t think the conditions are going to change.
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